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doubled readership sleazy outfit what is our relation with grid today point to industrial , they use us for scien content we link only to their orig content dispersed group of people

open disc with grid today - how to work with each other, not step on toes, etc.

egeee-- tech deve for science gets to industry

don't want to do plugs

mandate for isgtw -- summ of chic meeting -- to be written

what's a biline? Idea to add feedback to author/cc to editor

web stats: 3800 hits so far

get more publicity, make it more interesting

weekly editorial sched

xeno does layout now, in future editor will do deadline, content a week ahead ediotr layouts thurs, preview sent to adv board on Fri JJ, PA, HH, Paul forwards to nsf and doe feedback to ky by end of day monday 24 hours to get ti out, tues, editor can make edits, send out wed am cern time balance politics contact nsf , doe (give warning) by phone have a paolicy read everything with this in mind: who's going to be reading, who will feel slighted feedback from doe/nsf comes from paul a

get feedback only from people you've met, they must feel comfortable with you

hasn't had to run a correction -- would have to be a grave effor

egee doesn't send it on to nsf-equiv, would be the EC, EC are subscribed to it maybe check in couple times a year, very hands off

Advisory board What is role? Francois and Ruth involved but not on adv board

editorial board -- ky, owen, some osg person, two others

preview not sent to contributing editors

ruth's prob

us and europe

egee partner with many proj

osg by itself, and then other grid proj

more eur news, each country has projects osg has less news, main editor to spend more time writing about other us projects

push in us to affiliate small grids to teragrid europe ahead in cluster grids, behind in supercomp grids 150M for 5 yrs to teragrid, have approached

funding 35M/y for manpower in eur for grid

more smaller proj in euro,

jj: the initial complaint, more communication coming from eur, looks like all activity in eur the resources aren't there in us, finally nsf funded katie's position, brought out sgtw + more ky changed that balance, now is balance going to change again to eur? eur pay more for comm than u.s. don't want to slip back wonder if can get more funding from nsf to right the balance

bring in kurt splee? from nsf, is major commm for nsf, involved with lhc comm. most u.s. projects that ky covers are nsf, not doe need generous travel budget

fg: keep statistics to check balance try to docu how much activity there really is, collect info about all grid projects, owen started, spent 2 mos, requires 3 mos intensive to follow up

grid today wants db of grid projects we could work with them, then we'd know how to check rumors, maybe not really useful

RUth and Bob Jones join

Discuss balance between US and Eur

grid funding for comm much more in EU than in US work hard to make sure US stories get told rp thinks good idea to talk to Kurt

Editorial duties/breakdown, next steps with isgtw editor

Plans over next 6 months KY moves to CERN press office JJ we will fund fulltime editor for i paid 6 mo by FNAL as term employee, living at CERN, t

after that, establish CERN fellwosip funded by egee to get longterm, then make support come out even goal -- all contribute to make it work danielle will give 6 mon at least, then clearer idea how to move forward

fg:opening call for pos filled by apr 1 for fellow, 1 yr before end of egee proj. Danile may be candidate for that position. 2 scen -- it's Danielle, or other person and overlap with Danielle

egee2, egee3 in future

ruth: kevin says purch order throuh cern went smoothly, bob says don't use consultants here. complicated and tax rules

longterm plan for xeno, and who to pay just hired to setup site and newsletter, not continuing contract, haven't discussed keeping them on fnal has big contract with them, bundled sgtw in with others. may continue to do that (low-level), call in a pinch, xeno very reliable, isgtw is fancier than html, need backup.

editors from osg, egee as backup for isgtw, e.u is good at listing how much money was funded xeno still doing layout, funding may just be fnal or euro too. then question about geneva company, so funding may be challenging, so easier if fnal funds that

danielle stepped out: about making her official offer,

bob jones: how to bring in asia, how to find appropriate asian partner kek has communications person for HEP simon lin in taipei do issue press releases, event in may, wehre osg, egee will be involved, talk with simon then, Stella works with him Heavily involved in LHC Simon's here this week, FG saw him, try to meet with him. benefits and resp of being contributing editor asia isn't unified, another proj in japan, sou korea, slow responses india? eu-india project, know peopl with chep, english language

gridpp in uk (funded intern helen)

contrib editor who to invite, defined comm, one pt of contact incentive to contribute besides putting logo on asking one contrib per mo promotes their region, gets their message out, crossing atlantic is incentive eu-funded proj, have obligation to do outreach, can encourage to isgtw

use promotion scheme where performant editors get some benefits how to deal with nonperformant contributors, differnt get interns who has no other obligations who writes stories that we publish, suggest

ky proposes reg meeting with osg, egee, uk grid-pp, teragrid (editorial board)

function of adv board review function when review comes out

bobj: 1st few issues, look good, adv board: periodic review strategic dir, funding, contributions, conflicts try for late march before candidate is chosen

rp is exec dir of osg which is funding position, doesn't want to be in adv board, wants to continue to get previews, still wants paul to ... ex-officio -- member by virtue of your position representing stakeholder fg: lcg news --> grid news, then he becomes contrib editor for lcg (he'll check with lcg, else sim to ruth) ruth happy to be ex-officio member representing osg exec.

expand preview to other contrib editors? owen: yes, may give better sense of buy-in

rp: input for next few issues, thre will be minutes. rp and bob j leave; it's noon now.

AFternoon

Owen cern blogwatcher search engine for blogs, ky has blog will go into Symmetry

KY For next Wed ISD Helsinki (eq of SC), meeting report naregi (japan) for next next week purdue/ucsd data xfer CMS tier2 intel quadcore launch old sgtw, reprint and link, so cal ncsa (teragrid-rel article), ky: not to reprint, but 1st par and link

owen: ask if we can reprint, better to not take people off the site too often ky: never link to product launches

idea about writing guidelines -- katie will compile

news-in-brief suggest it's a selection, not compendium there's in the news, written by actual journalists keep press releases still in "in the news" isgtw doesn't cover big stories that everyone else covers, could put in news0nbrief

ky moves to lcg 1st of year, leaves isgtw

owen: EGI duro grid initiative, to move 2 yr funding to 5-7 yr cycle, profile on serbian guy (2 articles) then one on related proj.

Story idea JJ: owen's survey of grids that exist fg: Tom Taber, how fashionable are science grids can do opinion pieces -- leveraging good contacts, elicits responses from readers and can publish those name some: Mark Linash, OGF, bridges industrial/academic divide Tim Berners-Lee web science group (not grid) ian foster wrote for globus tenth anniv, spinning off the grid, can academic grids be spun , univa is company name indian guy in melbourne business models for grid :rajqumar miron livny (if ask ian, must ask miron) Steve Ticky Tony Hay MS with grid some serious lhc physicist; lothar? no, swiss tropics? fg miles allen -- climate prediction, and involved in how much car companies are responsible for this, boink -- evenison (contrary piece) why "ceti at home" it's not a grid (lots of scien read boink) vincent breton, jannick: healthgrid, assoc of orgs interested in grid for health martin hoffman bio scientist in berlin (fg)? jugfreund (siemens) pediatric med data, elec patient records, federating patient data DESA -- teragrid in europe (applications) finland's sc center direc kimmo koski, supports more science than egee

(profiles or opinion pieces)

profiles didn't get read, opinion pieces may be more popular need to brainstorm on the monthly meetings of editorial board

ky: talked to kevin about collaborative area in web site editorial calendar -- list of people, projects, articles coming up

ask kevin about wiki-- one area for editor contirubotors to put in idaes, editor gets to use the "real" area first meeting in january

partnerships with other projects

publicity

Pump up the circulation? Kevin's website statistics, doesn't know why low stats Exhausted usual HEP sources JJ: where do we want audience to come from. who's the target? grid community and potential grid commm. how to get back grid community? don't have unsubscribes, but they aren't clicking on articles can get to hep collaborations, how to get to other sciences chat with webmasters

can put little token that webmasters can take it and add to their page print publiscations, stick on table at conferences, business cards, bookmarks, whatever, turn the "do you speak grid" into this ask egee and osg for funds

I'm the web, I'm the grid" spoof, on u-tube Give the publication its own voice, so far isgtw is "businesslike", maybe time to think outside this box, develop a personal relationship with readers. So far, puts other stuff in.. not it's own.

Run podcast "what is the grid" cartoons, "pick the caption" Have a blog for the editor -- travels with my laptop, various things feedback area lots of ideas!!

Financial contributions from other parties

content more important than cash -- have other grids sponsor interns to write more than just their grid, but regional teragrid, grid-pp can give them presence in adv board and whatever. direct funding from eu

other sites: ruth wants to rotate grid cafe and gridtoday with other things, what things are there? not much give up their logos, just put them in when have content, need more sources, or other newletters to mine, Globus journal with special banner, Gridcafe is Francois and Rosie

with Kevin Munday

gridtoday hasn't linked to us yet, if they don't, just list them as in the news ian foster put a link in his blog, he sends article ideas.

thechnology news daily post press releases -- not that interesting

General status: in rush to roll out, now de-gerrymandering into useful workflow can now be produced automatically by content mgm system customizion take back seat to retrofit, but will come doc for understanding the system, how content xfered, how pages relate to each other can now turn it over to let somebody do edits Get through production of an issue with Danielle, then can give it a try in January week of Dec 17th. Anne to go with, Owen to learn from Danielle in Jan when she comes to CERN.

Stats: kevin thinks nothing is wrong, just it has to grow do we want to port materials over and leave urls intact but use redirects pages exist on interactions server if port to isgtw server while maintaining redirects, can maintain google standing (run script to do this) sgtw was subset of interactions. Nov, 6k visits to sgtw subdir (not isgtw) for Nov, oct 7438, sept 5453 any redirects will be counted twice

2ndary priorities -- customizations for searching, attaching docs and high res images Collaboration page: want a wiki Kevin: just had security issue, would use a fresh instance for us, but would require same vigilance as the other instances he's got going. Kevin can do quickly, just give him requirements. Ky to provide. dokuwiki

bilines and give mailto links -- kevin to look into

tagging: kevin to do some more work

-- AnneHeavey - 06 Dec 2006